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It’s the holidays! That means it’s time to light the fire, pour yourself some eggnog, and crack open a riveting real-life thriller like the latest book by Andy Greenberg of WIRED — Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin’s Most Dangerous Hackers. In November, we featured some of our interview with Greenberg, and now you can hear it in full. Sandworm is an essential guide for understanding conflict in the 21st century, and where we are headed if we don’t confront this serious threat.