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Republican Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa told donors at a fundraiser in Washington, D.C. last March that federal spending on non-discretionary programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security is “out of control” and will require “changes” in the future.

That’s according to a 55-second audio clip published Wednesday by Iowa Starting Line. In the recording, Ernst is asked by an attendee whether she is on board with Sen. David Perdue’s (R-Ga.) call for cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

“I think we all are because we understand that our non-discretionary spending is growing like this,” replied Ernst, who is up for reelection in 2020. “Everyone focuses on discretionary spending because that is what we can control in Congress. The rest is on autopilot and is out of control. We have to figure out ways to honor the commitments that have been made, but make changes for the future. How we do that, I don’t know.”

Progressive advocacy group Social Security Works tweeted that “changes” is “code for massive cuts.”

Kimberly Graham, one of five Democrats vying to unseat Ernst in November, tweeted Thursday that “we barely invest in the health and well-being of our people as it is, and Joni Ernst thinks even that is too much.”

“Joni doesn’t work for Iowans,” added Graham. “Joni works for the wealthy donors that fill her campaign coffers.”

The audio clip comes months after the Democratic super PAC American Bridge posted a video of Ernst telling a town hall audience in August that members of Congress should negotiate changes to Social Security “behind closed doors” to avoid scrutiny from advocacy groups and the press.

“The minute you say we need to address Social Security, the media is hammering you, the opposing party is hammering you—’there goes granny over a cliff,'” said Ernst, who has in the past expressed support for privatizing Social Security.

“There is a real issue out there,” added the Republican senator, “and as long as we are being hammered as members of Congress for even saying we need to do something about it, you’re not going to find people that are willing to step forward and do it.”

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Eddie Mauro, another Democrat running for Ernst’s Senate seat, said the Republican “should be ashamed” of her position on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security spending.

“Again, Joni Ernst has shown that she is willing to push our families into poverty with a smile,” Mauro tweeted Wednesday. “The programs she plans to cut are a lifeline for millions of Americans.”

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[1] Stream Joni Ernst On Debt, Social Security & Medicare by Jeb | Listen online for free on SoundCloud ➤ https://soundcloud.com/user-87991124/joni-ernst-on-debt-social-security-medicare/s-0zyge[2] Ernst Audio: Spending On Programs Like Medicare 'Out Of Control' - Iowa Starting Line ➤ https://iowastartingline.com/2020/02/12/ernst-audio-medicare-social-security-spending-out-of-control/[3]https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/perdue-says-further-health-care-changes-absolutely-needed/pKkgKuHrwrGMzvb58h0aTK/[4] #IASen hashtag on Twitter ➤ https://twitter.com/hashtag/IASen?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw[5] Iowa Starting Line on Twitter: "New from @libmeyer: Audio from Ernst fundraiser last year has the senator commenting on "out of control" non-discretionary funding on things like Medicare https://t.co/In6wPMPOIB" ➤ https://t.co/IRJn3Hz6K9[6] SocialSecurityWorks on Twitter: "In a room of wealthy fundraisers, Sen. Joni Ernst (R-IA) said that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are "out of control" and that she wants to "make changes for the future." "Changes" is code for MASSIVE CUTS! #IASen… https://t.co/g6wlmVFkkO" ➤ https://twitter.com/SSWorks/status/1228020515694051330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw[7] Kimberly Graham for Polk Co. Attorney on Twitter: "We barely invest in the health and well being of our people as it is, and @joniernst thinks even that is too much. Joni doesn't work for Iowans. Joni works for the wealthy donors that fill her campaign coffers. https://t.co/AP8NSGwnsz" ➤ https://twitter.com/KimberlyforIowa/status/1227962436139016192[8] 'Hell No,' Say Progressives, After GOP Sen. Joni Ernst Suggests Cutting Social Security 'Behind Closed Doors' ➤ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/09/06/hell-no-say-progressives-after-gop-sen-joni-ernst-suggests-cutting-social-security[9] Social Security: What are Braley's, Ernst's plans? ➤ https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/kathie-obradovich/2014/09/03/senate-candidates-playing-hide-and-seek-on-social-security/15029367/[10] Eddie J. Mauro #NewFrontierAction on Twitter: "Again, @joniernst has shown that she is willing to push our families into poverty with a smile. The programs she plans to cut are a lifeline for millions of Americans. She should be ashamed. ⬅️ https://t.co/tKyC75LV8r" ➤ https://twitter.com/eddiejmauro/status/1227778923741765632